More Thoughts on Immigration.

In today's New York Times, op-ed columnist Paul Krugman raises some very important points about resolving the issue of illegal immigration. Here is the link (you do need to be registered, so below is the column): http://select.nytimes.com/2006/03/31/opinion/31krugman.html

Mr. Krugman's liberal credentials are second to none. Therefore, we must take his observations quite seriously. This takes us back to the need to think about this issue (as well as many others) in a different light. It is difficult to be both a self-disciplined progressive while retaining a sense of consistency, but both Robert F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King, Jr. proved that it can be done. Let us follow their example.

March 31, 2006
Op-Ed Columnist
The Road to Dubai
By PAUL KRUGMAN

For now, at least, the immigration issue is mainly hurting the Republican Party, which is divided between those who want to expel immigrants and those who want to exploit them. The only thing the two factions seem to have in common is mean-spiritedness.

But immigration remains a difficult issue for liberals. Let me say a bit more about the subject of my last column, the uncomfortable economics of immigration, then turn to what really worries me: the political implications of a large nonvoting work force.

About the economics: the crucial divide isn't between legal and illegal immigration; it's between high-skilled and low-skilled immigrants. High-skilled immigrants — say, software engineers from South Asia — are, by any criterion I can think of, good for America. But the effects of low-skilled immigration are mixed at best.

True, there are large benefits for the low-skilled migrants, who may find even a minimum-wage U.S. job a big step up. Immigration also raises the total income of native-born Americans, although reasonable estimates suggest that these gains amount to no more than a fraction of 1 percent.

But low-skilled immigration depresses the wages of less-skilled native-born Americans. And immigrants increase the demand for public services, including health care and education. Estimates indicate that low-skilled immigrants don't pay enough in taxes to cover the cost of providing these services.

All of these effects, except for the gains for the immigrants themselves, are fairly small. Some of my friends say that's the point I should stress: immigration is a wonderful thing for the immigrants, and claims that immigrants are undermining American workers and taxpayers are hugely overblown — end of story.

But it's important to be intellectually honest, even when it hurts. Moreover, what really worries me isn't the narrow economics — it's the political economy, the effects of having a disenfranchised labor force.

Imagine, for a moment, a future in which America becomes like Kuwait or Dubai, a country where a large fraction of the work force consists of illegal immigrants or foreigners on temporary visas — and neither group has the right to vote. Surely this would be a betrayal of our democratic ideals, of government of the people, by the people. Moreover, a political system in which many workers don't count is likely to ignore workers' interests: it's likely to have a weak social safety net and to spend too little on services like health care and education.

This isn't idle speculation. Countries with high immigration tend, other things equal, to have less generous welfare states than those with low immigration. U.S. cities with ethnically diverse populations — often the result of immigration — tend to have worse public services than those with more homogeneous populations.

Of course, America isn't Dubai. But we're moving in that direction. As of 2002, according to the Urban Institute, 14 percent of U.S. workers, and 20 percent of low-wage workers, were immigrants. Only a third of these immigrant workers were naturalized citizens. So we already have a large disenfranchised work force, and it's growing rapidly. The goal of immigration reform should be to reverse that trend.

So what do I think of the Senate Judiciary Committee's proposal, which is derived from a plan sponsored by John McCain and Ted Kennedy? I'm all in favor of one provision: offering those already here a possible route to permanent residency and citizenship. Since we aren't going to deport more than 10 million people, we need to integrate those people into our society.

But I'm puzzled by the plan to create a permanent guest-worker program, one that would admit 400,000 more workers a year (and you know that business interests would immediately start lobbying for an increase in that number). Isn't institutionalizing a disenfranchised work force a big step away from democracy?

For a hard-line economic conservative like Mr. McCain, the advantages to employers of a cheap work force may be more important than the violation of democratic principles. But why would someone like Mr. Kennedy go along? Is the point to help potential immigrants, or is it to buy support from business interests?

Either way, it's a dangerous route to go down. America's political system is already a lot less democratic in practice than it is on paper, and creating a permanent nonvoting working class would make things worse. The road to Dubai may be paved with good intentions.

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Hmmmmm.

Kety, I understand your concern with this statement by Krugman:

“This isn't idle speculation. Countries with high immigration tend, other things equal, to have less generous welfare states than those with low immigration. U.S. cities with ethnically diverse populations — often the result of immigration — tend to have worse public services than those with more homogeneous populations.

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I agree that we need to be intellectually honest

I agree that we need to be intellectually honest in our conversations re. immigration and I think that Mr. Krugman raises some very interesting ideas in his op-ed.

But I am worried when I see him write:

"U.S. cities with ethnically diverse populations — often the result of immigration — tend to have worse public services than those with more homogeneous populations."

What is he trying to convey with this statement?

In saying that, "U.S. cities with ethnically diverse populations — often the result of immigration — tend to have worse public services than those with more homogeneous populations," is Mr. Krugman insinuating that the ideal state is an American city with more homogenous populations?

If so, then I must say that poses a serious concern to me.

What makes the United States so unique in the world is its singular history of steady streams of diverse migration, voluntary and not, from across the world: English, Dutch, Irish, Italian, German, Scandanavian, Chinese, Japanese, African, Latin American, etc.

No other country has the history that we do nor the diversity that we do.

True. That might make our country more complex. But it is also a rich tradition that makes us who we are as a nation. We should not forget our history.

I lived in China for nearly four years. I have yet to visit another country where there is so much homogeneity in race. Most of the people I encountered each day were Chinese and specifically, Han Chinese.

& one of the key reasons that I returned to this country was our diverse pluralistic tradition rooted in steady streams of immigration- the singularity of this country in its diversity and the fact that in our uniqueness we could create something unprecedented.

I've heard similar arguments made as people compare Scandanvian countries such as Sweeden and Denmark vis-a-vis the U.S.- the contrast between the levels of social services offered between the two and how the higher level of services in Scandanavia comes a result of the homogeneity of their population (which would be impossible to make happen here because of the the heterogeneity of our population, or so goes the argument...)

But friends, we are not Scandanavia nor could we be even if we tried unless we deported a heck of a lot of people. And then the question would be who would stay? The Native Americans?

All the rest of us are after all immigrants. & if we are honest about our history and the waves of migration that built this nation we realize that when the Irish came they came not because they were skilled but beacuse they were suffering a famine and many of our Italian brothers and sisters did not come because they were high level laborers. Let's be intellectually honest and transparent about what it is that we are looking to create & the history of our nation, upon which we build. Something must be done about immigration and it must make sense and work. However, I do not think that the answer is longing for any kind of homogeneity. That is simply not who we are nor in my opinion who we should be. And the implications of that kind of conversation are very dangerous.

I Sent Krugman an E-Mail

In response to Kety's concern (as well as mine) I sent Paul Krugman the following E-mail on Friday night:

Dear Mr. Krugman:

As both a loyal reader and as a liberal who basically agrees with you on the immigration issue, I along with many friends who share similar views were a bit concerned by this comment:

"U.S. cities with ethnically diverse populations — often the result of immigration — tend to have worse public services than those with more homogeneous populations."

1) Can you expound on what you mean by "homogenous populations" and where you're going with that idea?--I know you're not espousing any sort of racism, but please clarify; and

2) What is your source of authority for the state of public services in cities with "homogenous" and "diverse" population?

Thank you.

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Pls keep us posted

Txs!