Submitted by NYGaribaldi on Tue, 10/30/2007 - 14:14.
....intead you use the cloak of Catholicism to disguse some rather unCatholic hatred. Beyond that, you're a troll who is abusing his privilege to be here. That, in and of itself, is reason enough to banish you from this web site.
Submitted by Angelo Lopez on Tue, 10/30/2007 - 12:10.
I think the Catholic Church would be very much against the idea of throwing out Muslims in our country. In the Vatican II council, they defined the Catholic Church's relationship with other religions in a document called Nostra Aetate (In our time). In regard to Islam, Nostra Aetate states: "The Church also has a high regard for the Muslims, who worship one God, living and subsistent, merciful and omnipotent, the Creator of Heaven and Earth" (Nostra Aetate 3).
John Paul II worked in that spirit to gain dialogue with the Islam world. In his book "Crossing the Threshold of Hope", he wrote: "Nevertheless, the religosity of Muslims deserves respect. It is impossible not to admire, for example, their fidelity to prayer. The image of believers in Allah, who without caring about time or place, fall to their knees and immerse themselves in prayer remains a model for all those who invoke the true God, in particular for those Christians who, having deserted their magnificent cathedrals, pray only a little or not al all.
The Council has also called for the Church to have a dialogue with followers of the Prophet, and the Chruch has proceeded to do so. We reain in Nostra Aetate: 'Even if over the course of centuries Christians and Muslims have had more than a few dissensions and quarrels, this sacred Council now urges all to forget the past and to work toward mutual understanding as well as toward the preservation and promotion of social justice, moral welfare, peace, and freedom for the benefit of all mankind'(Nostra Aetate 3).
From this point of view, as I have already mentioned, the meetings for prayer held at Assissi (especially that for peace in Bosnia, in 1993), certainly played a significant role. Also worthy were my meetings with the followers of Islam during my numerous apostolic trips to Africa and Asia, where sometimes, in a given country, the majority of the citizens were Muslims. Despite this, the Pope was welcomed with great hospitality and was listened to with similar graciousness."
Crossing the Threshold of Hope, p.93-94
As a young man, John Paul II lost many Jewish friends during the Holocaust, and this instilled in him the need to protect all religions from being subject to harassment or violence. He would especially be against the harassment of Muslims in America.
Pope Benedict would probably have a similar view to his predecessor. His speech that caused so much controversy among Muslims was reprinted in the November 2006 issue of Vital Speeches of the Day, and it really wasn't a criticism of Islam. It was more of a dissertation of Faith and Reason. I think it was badly written, but Benedict's point wasn't to put down Islam, but to criticize Radical Muslims and anybody (including Christians) who uses religion to justify violence. His quote of the emperor states, "God is not pleased by blood- and not acting reasonably is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats... To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death..."
Hate speech hate shmeech. I think you are violating the first amendment by making your stupid comment.
Look, anyone in their right minds knows that Islam is an evil religion followed by wack jobs who want to cut our heads off if we do not convert to their religion. We just need to kick them out of the country and shut down all of their organizations and mosques in the country. talk about a boost to our national security.
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Corapi, You Sure Don't Act Catholic....
....intead you use the cloak of Catholicism to disguse some rather unCatholic hatred. Beyond that, you're a troll who is abusing his privilege to be here. That, in and of itself, is reason enough to banish you from this web site.
How About These Reasons...
1) Many Muslims are American citizens and to arbitrarily "throw them out" would be a violation of both procedural and substantive due process;
2) The vast majority of American Muslims are law abiding citizens, who pay their taxes, go to work and don't bother anyone; and
3) That would be the unChrist-like thing to do, wouldn't it?
The Catholic Church's Respect for Islam
I think the Catholic Church would be very much against the idea of throwing out Muslims in our country. In the Vatican II council, they defined the Catholic Church's relationship with other religions in a document called Nostra Aetate (In our time). In regard to Islam, Nostra Aetate states: "The Church also has a high regard for the Muslims, who worship one God, living and subsistent, merciful and omnipotent, the Creator of Heaven and Earth" (Nostra Aetate 3).
John Paul II worked in that spirit to gain dialogue with the Islam world. In his book "Crossing the Threshold of Hope", he wrote: "Nevertheless, the religosity of Muslims deserves respect. It is impossible not to admire, for example, their fidelity to prayer. The image of believers in Allah, who without caring about time or place, fall to their knees and immerse themselves in prayer remains a model for all those who invoke the true God, in particular for those Christians who, having deserted their magnificent cathedrals, pray only a little or not al all.
The Council has also called for the Church to have a dialogue with followers of the Prophet, and the Chruch has proceeded to do so. We reain in Nostra Aetate: 'Even if over the course of centuries Christians and Muslims have had more than a few dissensions and quarrels, this sacred Council now urges all to forget the past and to work toward mutual understanding as well as toward the preservation and promotion of social justice, moral welfare, peace, and freedom for the benefit of all mankind'(Nostra Aetate 3).
From this point of view, as I have already mentioned, the meetings for prayer held at Assissi (especially that for peace in Bosnia, in 1993), certainly played a significant role. Also worthy were my meetings with the followers of Islam during my numerous apostolic trips to Africa and Asia, where sometimes, in a given country, the majority of the citizens were Muslims. Despite this, the Pope was welcomed with great hospitality and was listened to with similar graciousness."
Crossing the Threshold of Hope, p.93-94
As a young man, John Paul II lost many Jewish friends during the Holocaust, and this instilled in him the need to protect all religions from being subject to harassment or violence. He would especially be against the harassment of Muslims in America.
Pope Benedict would probably have a similar view to his predecessor. His speech that caused so much controversy among Muslims was reprinted in the November 2006 issue of Vital Speeches of the Day, and it really wasn't a criticism of Islam. It was more of a dissertation of Faith and Reason. I think it was badly written, but Benedict's point wasn't to put down Islam, but to criticize Radical Muslims and anybody (including Christians) who uses religion to justify violence. His quote of the emperor states, "God is not pleased by blood- and not acting reasonably is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats... To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death..."
this is a community
you are entitled to use hate speech here...we're not infringing on your first ammendment right. you can set up your own website for that.
Since when is truth hate
Since when is truth hate speech huh? I guess the truth stings if you have not heard it for awhile.
Hate speech hate shmeech. I
Hate speech hate shmeech. I think you are violating the first amendment by making your stupid comment.
Look, anyone in their right minds knows that Islam is an evil religion followed by wack jobs who want to cut our heads off if we do not convert to their religion. We just need to kick them out of the country and shut down all of their organizations and mosques in the country. talk about a boost to our national security.
by the way Stephen...have a nice day!
this is hate speech
and i will take it up with the governing board for removal.