Obama WINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Submitted by Stephen Rockwell on Tue, 06/03/2008 - 20:23
CNN and MSNBC have declared Barack Obama as the Presumptive Nominee!
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Obama front pages from around the world
Thought this was well done by the Globe online:
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/gallery/060408_Obama_front_pages/
more global reaction
Obama's nomination is already changing perceptions of the United States around the world. This is so important given the damage of our reputation that the Bush administration has done.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/04/europe/react.php
WOW!
Last night, I felt as if I was transported in time. Looking at a man who looks like me, at the foot of the statue of a president with foresight. Hearing the words echoing across the masses, resonating with a desire for change in America. Feeling the pride, swelling deep inside, of finally having been recognized as a person, not as just a person of color.
Wait, I got confused. For a moment, looking at the projection image of Obama giving his speech last night, I felt a tinge of what it must have felt like to have been in Washington, DC, in August 1963. Strident tones springing forth from the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. must have pealed like cathedral bells in the ears of all they fell upon, just like last night. Obama's speech resonated with that desire for change in America, presidential in nature, transcendent in spirit.
Lee Greenwood should do a remix of his song, now, with Jay-Z.
Just kidding about the remix, but you know how serious this moment was, for ALL Americans, isn't it?
Agree Tyler
Tyler,
I couldn't agree more. I couldn't help but getting goosebumps during the speech last night to see such a diverse crowd in every way cheering triumphantly with Obama. He just took it all in for a minute.
There's little doubt in my mind that King is looking down and saying this in part is a fulfillment of the dream. Such a short time ago, this was seemingly impossible for an African American.
And you are also right there is something transcendent about Obama's speech that extends well beyond race and acknowledge the great promise this nation holds for each of us. We are blessed to be living here in this time when there's so much left to do, so much to clean up after 8 terrible years of mismanagement, deceit and warmaking, but still so much promise and hope for a better future.
The remix with Lee Greenwood and Jay-Z is hilarious. Hey, if it can be done with the Beatles, why not "I'm Proud to Be an American."
So. . .
...what do we do, now, next?
How do we become our brothers' keepers, and continue to not just spread the good feelings, but act in love to advance such a positive agenda, for our country and our world?
If I was speaking corporate-eze, what are our next steps?
Campaign for Obama!
We campaign for Obama! We get out the vote! Tyler,are you still in the service or reserves?
Speech Transcript Links
Clinton, http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/06/03/transcript-hillary-clinton-prima...
Obama, http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/10818.html
Obama has to have Hillary in his corner
Hillary Clinton would have been at the very bottom of my list for Democratic nominee out of the pool that ran. She finished strong though and had a lot of support. Obviously, millions of Americans feel differently about that.
Obama and Clinton are pragmatists. To get as far as they have gotten, they would have to be. Our crappy primary and electoral system rules out ideologues. I think Obama has to offer the Vice-President slot to Hillary, regardless of the bad blood that has happened. It is sheer 100%, pragmatic, play to win politics.
Personally I was hoping for Jim Webb or someone else with similar politics from a red state that could go blue but the nature of the primaries doesn’t lend itself to that unless Hillary turns it down. Whatever the case, Obama has to have Hillary strongly in his corner for a victory in November. She finished way too strong to be ignored.
There are others far better!
Jim,
I have to vehemently disagree with you. Why on earth would Americans want another four or eight years of Hillary and Bill?
I am hearing in Virginia that Jim Webb, Mark Warner, and Tim Kaine are possibilities. All three would be far superior to Hillary. Although Mark Warner is running for the Senate, he would be an outstanding choice. While governor of Virginia, he was voted among the top five governors in 2005 by TIME MAGAZINE, Virginia was voted "the best managed state" by GOVERNING MAGAZINE, plus additional honors. You can read his bio at:
http://www.markwarner2008.com/about
Tim Kaine was Mark Warner's Lt. Governor and is presently governor of Virginia. He would also be an excellent candidate, although my vote is for Mark Warner. Warner has the ability to stand tall under tremendous pressure and criticism by those in opposition. And, he comes out on top!
Webb, Warner, and Kaine have not been corrupted by the D.C. culture. We need new faces who would be dedicated to cleaning up our huge mess. Hillary is enmeshed in the mess. Warner would be an excellent chair for the Senate ... he knows how to cross the aisle and work on a non-partisan basis. He is disciplined, tough, and fair.
Mark Warner would be an exceptional choice for vice-president. The people could rest assured that Mark Warner was working for their best interests! What a delightful change that would be!
Hillary
You aren't disagreeing with me at all. I don't know why millions of Americans want and voted for Hillary.They did though, that is reality. Whether I agree with it or understand it is irrelevant. Obama needs those people that like and support Hillary.Thats what I mean that pragmatism will trump ideology. (Actually an argument could be made that they are ideological so close that it is more about personality and perception that ideology).
Congratulations on Obama win
Congratulations on Obama's clinching the delegates for nomination. It was a hard fight and Obama should be commended.
It'll be some work to get Clinton and her supporters on board, but I think this will be a good test of Obama's political skills. I read the book "Team of Rivals" by Doris Goodwin about Lincoln and his cabinet. An excerpt from Amazon.com:
"Goodwin makes the case for Lincoln's political genius by examining his relationships with three men he selected for his cabinet, all of whom were opponents for the Republican nomination in 1860: William H. Seward, Salmon P. Chase, and Edward Bates. These men, all accomplished, nationally known, and presidential, originally disdained Lincoln for his backwoods upbringing and lack of experience, and were shocked and humiliated at losing to this relatively obscure Illinois lawyer. Yet Lincoln not only convinced them to join his administration--Seward as secretary of state, Chase as secretary of the treasury, and Bates as attorney general--he ultimately gained their admiration and respect as well. How he soothed egos, turned rivals into allies, and dealt with many challenges to his leadership, all for the sake of the greater good, is largely what Goodwin's fine book is about. Had he not possessed the wisdom and confidence to select and work with the best people, she argues, he could not have led the nation through one of its darkest periods. "
From what I've seen of Obama so far, he seems to have the same political skills as Lincoln to win over political rivals. I voted for Hillary, but I admire the way Obama has handled the controversies of Reverend Wright and his former church. What Obama will face with easing Clinton and her supporters into his campaign seems comparable to what Lincoln had to go through with Seward, Chase, and Bates. This isn't anything new. I think he's well prepared for McCain now that he's been tested.
Powerful indictment of McCain
I don't think anyone is going to say Obama is going to be a push over. Powerful, powerful indictment connecting McCain to Bush's failed policies. The end of indictment sent the crow into a frenzy...he's certainly an amazing speaker.
He then can tone it down to remind us that we are Americans first and pre-emptively called out any fearmongering from the other side.
"This is our moment. This is our time." Another crecscendo. What a beautiful amazing speech...he gives me the goosebumps with how truly amazing this moment is in our history.
i agree
The speech was pretty amazing. We can't handle four more years, of same old same old. And 100 years in Iraq does not equal change!
Hillary as ungracious as ever
Hillary has lost and yet she will not congratulate Obama for winning the nomination.
She says she will not decide what she's going to do tonight. She will talk to her supports and party leaders...how bout talking to the nominee, Barack Obama?
Just as she did in Iowa when she wouldn't even congratulate Obama, she really blew this one. She really should have done more to begin to mend the wounds of this party.
Obama should not even consider her to be the VP unless she's willing to have just an ounce of humility to congratulate him for beating her in this contest.
Obama has always been more gracious
Obama has always been more gracious when he got beat by her. Even tonight he has gone over the top to be supportive of her and acknowledge her accomplishments and that she will continue to be central to the fight.
well...
I agree that Sen. Obama has been more gracious, but I do believe that Sen. Clinton did congratulate him at the beginning of her speech last night.
I would also say that I was shocked that she does not appear to be conceding to him. I don't understand what her goal is. Is she going to insist that she be given the VP spot on the ticket before she relents? Why does she need to consult with the party leaders to know what is best for the party? Does she honestly believe that a continued fight after all of the elections are finished would be good for anyone but John McCain?
I've gone to her website and voiced my opinion. I said that I'm an Obama supporter, but if their roles were reversed, I would expect him to concede and I would give my full support to her as the Democratic candidate.
It is time to put our differences aside and work toward understanding and unity.
A truly historic victory
A truly historic night....as an African American becomes the first nominee of any major party.
Unity Unity Unity
Now we have to unify the Democratic Party and focus on a landslide victory in November.
Excitement
I am pretty excited about Obama!