"I have renounced my Christianity"
"I have renounced my Christianity" says Chris, "but I have retained my Christian faith."
I listened as this casual bussiness associate, who had just learned of my "other" vocation described his own disilusionment with the traditional expressions of Christianity.
"Churches spend too much time and resources either trying to bring people in the doors, or exclude them. This does not seem like the image I hold of Jesus" he continued. "This is what caused me to leave the church. I considered myself atheist for some time, but realized that the gospel of Christ is far greater than his so-called followers."
I then (after I picked my jaw off of the floor at hearing such a profound statement of disilusionment) then had the supreme joy of telling Chris that he is not alone; that there are many of us striving to recapture what we feel to be the authentic spirit of the faith.
Just how many are out there that feel the same but do not have the courage to speak?
How sad is it that to many, mainstream Christianity has become anathematic to the teachings of Christ?
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ebb & flow of participation
Hi Jim, I think you make an excellent point. While I think that some ebb and flow is natural, I also think that there is an opportunity here. Good call to ask the why? & my response is to ask the what do we do about it? Have the featured bloggers been regular in their blogging?
Featured Bloggers
The feautred bloggers are a good place to start. Many of them aren't blogging.I know my production has fallen off as of late but I am on the site everyday and still posting replys.(I am having a late and strange summer). Some of the feautured bloggers haven't posted in months. Do we need to contact them and ask them about their concern? Do we need to contact people who are blogging regularly, such as Rich, Angelo,Bill, Jersey Guy, Bo,etc. if they would be interested in being feautured bloggers?We seem to need a little shake up .
Reaching out
Jim,
I think it makes sense for those of us who are more active to reach out to those who fall off for weeks or months at a time. We all should participate, but maybe you could lead us in that effort.
Hey, I is one!
Hey Jim,
While I appreciate the compliment, if you look at the list of featured bloggers you'll see my name.
I do hope that Angelo, Rev. Roger, Bill, Boyd and some of new folks like Jersey Guy will consider becoming featured bloggers. Haven't heard from The Janet in awhile either. I did contact Rev. Ian Lynch. He says he got busy, hadn't the time to blog for a while and got out of the habit. He promises to come back soon. The sooner the better says I.
Rich
thanks for the offer
Thank you for the offer. Sometimes I have a lot of time to blog. When I get an art project though, I have to concentrate on the art assignment. This August, I'll continue reading Crossleft, but I won't have time to really blog because I have an art show coming this September and I have to finish a few paintings. If any of you are in the San Francisco Bay Area, my show will be in Gallery Saratoga in Saratoga, California, from September 2 to the end of the month. I'll have a reception on Saturday, September 6, from 1 p.m. to 6 p.m. I'd be happy if you see my show. You could look up my art at http://www.gallerysaratoga.com/artists/Lopez/index.html.
Are there any special responsibilities of the featured blogger?
Angelo
Feautured Blogger Requirements
Here are the requirements. The first requirement,should be modified to read blog once a week, that assigned day requirement just doesn't happen.Angelo you already meet the requirements, you would just need to be approved.
Requirements
Write a blog at least once a week on an assigned day
Post a comment on another user's post at least once a week.
Have been a registered user of CrossLeft for at least a month.
Make commitment to become a CrossLeft member.
Be approved by the Institute for Progressive Christianity Board of Directors
Oops Sorry
It must be the lack of a picture, Rich.I am sorry about that.Frank has been blogging since before I came to this site so he was just always a given as a blogger, even though he too doesn't have a picture. Perhaps I need to invite and encourage some of the folks we have mentioned and contact some of those who just don't post anymore and see just what their intentions are.
It is appreciated...
I will certainly take the suggestion under consideration, but I feel the decision is not up to me.
I will take the feedback of the current featured bloggers as well as the community...
If it is agreeable I would love to try and step up to the challenge. However, I will warn that time is an issue with me as it is with everyone else...
Thanks Again!
-Rich
All you need do is asked
Jersey Guy,
Great! All you have to do is volunteer. Steve Rockwell is the site administrator. Send him a bio and why you'd like to be nominated to be a featured blogger and Jim will bring it to the CL Board for a vote. Steve can tell you more.
We do, of course, require a first and last name! So, what do we call you (other than not too late for dinner! My Dad always said he didn't care what people called him, just don't call him too late for dinner.)
Rich
what unites
what unites people in their dis-satisfaction?
Jesus, or Christian
Jesus invitation to his disciples was most eloquently stated in the simple invitation "Follow Me" It seems so basic, and when it's just Jesus and the 12 seemed to be pulled off quite well. Some disputes, some grumbling, a few misunderstandings, and one betrayal, but quite effective. Centuries later, many have lost track of Jesus footsteps, and move along rather in a group. Indeed, Christians often find it easier to follow Paul, who gives more clear direction, sets goals, and often seems his journey as a race. Given the technological changes in society, the church is now a mass movement in a hurry, attempting to herd people along the same path. Obviously not room enough for everyone in one group, so we split up, and compete against each other for the best route to the finish line. I used to speak of this as the rancher model of Christianity, rather than the Shepherd model, where a smaller group listens for the shepherds voice, follows him in paths of safety, and often wanders around the area he rest within and are called back together by his voice.
The efficiency of the modern church model tends toward a bland, driven, herded and haggard group. Like cattle driven across miles of desserts, we speak of danger everywhere and enemies. What grass is there is quickly taken and eaten in a run, but most simply trampled underfoot, the landscape behind us scarred and barren. The shepherd with his flock, travel slowly, often returning to favorite spots, resting securely in the protection of the shepherd. They leave behind better pastures, and paths than they found, and feel secure on the path.
The Biblical image is the shepherd. The American model the cattle drive. The cattle drive fits the technological society in which we live. Many have crossed paths with the church, only to be left behind in a scarred barren trail, hungry and injured by the rapidly moving hoard which passed them by. Ironically, although our situation parallels that on Jesus portrayed in the gospels, we are surprised when the respected, the powerful and the secure do well without involvement with Jesus. They neither hear nor heed his invitation to follow me, but race along with the herd to get ahead and finish first. The poor, the sick, the blind, the lame, the oppressed and imprisoned -- these hear the voice of Jesus. Indeed some strange exceptions also come, from rich tax collectors, foreign military officers, a few religious leaders, even mystics from the east came seeking Jesus. He never traveled far, accumulated wealth, nor saved for a rainy day -- still he inspired confidence and trained and equipped a small group to walk his path even when he returned to God the father.
It still works today, if we remember Jesus invitation. It is a path best shared with companions, walked with interest and open eyes, and taken as a journey not a destination. Years ago a family circle cartoon showed the family impatiently waiting for Billy to return from the store, just a block away. How long could it take? the the next frame showed his footsteps, across he street, petting the neighbors dog, back across walking the neighbors stone wall, returning back following a butterfly, and again tossing a stick for the neighbors dog, returning with a friend, and back on the wall, then kicking a stone across the street and putting down the groceries to chase a toad... on and on the footsteps continued... and it reminds me of what's right about following Jesus and what's wrong with modern Christianity.
I'm a pastor the church left, I'm disappointed in my "religion" but confident in my "faith". I looked long, but have found a community still following the shepherd, and listening for his voice. It hasn't removed some of my scars, but the injury has healed, I wish for you also the joy of companions on the journey, and shade trees under which to lie and listen to the saviors voice.
Lukewarm Churches and Crossleft?
Rev Roger I have a couple of comments. The first is I have thought long and hard about all those people who don’t attend church or any other type of spiritual gathering. There are so many out there. Institutional Christianity has failed them. One problem, as I see it, is that they are not a monolithic group. There is no one change that will get millions of them swarming back into the church. One’s complaint may be the music; it always seems that a hymn has to be at least 100 years old to be sung at so many services. Yet another’s may be sexual preference and gender issues, and yet another’s the rigidity of dogmatic doctrine. Non-church goers are a huge group demographically. So many Americans that identify themselves as Christians only show up at services on Christmas and Easter, or as with your friend never attend. I would like to know how to reach these people.
The other comment I have relates to our site but does have some common discussion grounds with this post. Have others noticed how much the activity on the site has declined? We were really buzzing for a while and now site activity has slowed to a crawl. We were really trying to capture that “authentic spirit of faith” a few months ago but we seem to have backed off. Are we are afraid of being too far outside the parameters of orthodoxy? Are we trying so hard not to offend anyone that we have become lukewarm? Is it just too hard to get outside that box when it comes to faith, and especially an active dynamic faith that takes it to the street? We know what Jesus said about being lukewarm. He told us to be hot or cold, not lukewarm, because he would spit us out of his mouth if we were (I am paraphrasing). In our attempt to appeal to everyone and offend no one, are we becoming too ordinary just like the churches Roger’s associate doesn’t want to go to?